...Not talking down to me like I'm an idiot would be a good start. [Is this guy even hearing what Charlie's saying? Is he hearing himself?]

And, like, there's a lot of space between being a good guy and being a bad guy. Like, gray area, y'know? [He demonstrates said gap by holding up his hands.] I'm not saying you gotta prove you're a good guy, just that you're not terrible.